NOVEMBER 10, 2020 - Minutes of Public Meetings - Apprenticeship and Training Council
Download this document (Word)
Mr. Brian Cavey called the fourth virtual meeting of the Maryland Apprenticeship and Training Council to order at 9:00 a.m. and welcomed all Council members, staff and guests taking part in the meeting. Mr. MacLarion did a roll call of Council members for the minutes of the meeting.
PRESENT:
COUNCIL  MEMBERS   
Brian  S. Cavey           - Chairperson                                                                   Employee Representative      
  Allen B. Clinedinst III  - Employee Representative      
  Norbert R. Klusmann, Sr. – Employee  Representative      
  Neil E. Wilford, Jr.     – Employee Representative      
  David J. Wilson, Sr.     – Employee                      
  Leon W. Bromley          - Employer Representative      
  Michelle L. Butt         - Employer Representative      
  Grant Shmelzer           - Employer Representative      
  David Smarte             - Employer Representative      
Ronald Leonard - USDL/OA Consultant to the Council
  NOT  PRESENT       
Christine  Banovic        - Public Representative
  *MATP  Director Chris MacLarion reported Ms. Banovic informed him in an email that she  would be unable to attend because of school obligations.
OTHERS             
Tiffany  Robinson         – Maryland Secretary of  Labor  
  James  Rzepkowski         - Assistant Secretary  for 
  Workforce Development and   
  Adult  Learning (DWDAL), 
  Maryland  Department of Labor
  Angella Moon             –  Department of Labor, DWDAL 
  Christopher D. MacLarion –  Director, Maryland  
  Apprenticeship
  and Training Program (MATP)
  Jeffrey  W. Smith         - Program Manager, MATP                  
  Kelton  Addison           - MATP
  Ginamarie Best           - MATP
  Kevin L. Hunt            - MATP
  Jennifer D. Runkles      -  MATP
  Jane Sinclair            - MATP
  John P. Taylor           - MATP
  Leza Griffith            - Maryland Department of Labor  
  OAG 
  Lorraine Taylor          - Carter Machinery
  Judi Olinger             - Humanim 
  Judge Mark Scurti        - Associate Judge, District 
  Court  of Maryland for  
  Baltimore  City, also 
  representing  Maryland State 
  Bar Association (MSBA) 
  Charles Wallace          - Maryland State Department of  
  Education 
  Jay Bouis                - Community College of Baltimore 
  County  (CCBC)
  Diane Targarona          - CCBC 
  Carla Milan              - Internship  and Apprenticeship  
  Coordinator, Frederick 
  Community  College 
  Chuck  LoSchiavo          - Frederick Community College 
  Adrienne Summer          - Howard Community College 
  April Martinez           -  AT&T 
  Brenda Anderson          - Project Manager, AT&T
  Robert Hendricks         -  Business Engagement 
  Representative,  Lower Shore 
  Workforce  Alliance
  Chip  Williams            - Lywood Electric
  Josh Martin              - Seaside Plumbing
  Justin Swick             - Howard Community College
Chairman Cavey asked Mr. MacLarion to confirm that the minutes for the September MATC meeting were not available to be approved during this meeting. Mr. MacLarion confirmed that Chairman Cavey was correct.
Chairman Cavey then introduced Assistant Secretary Rzepkowski. Assistant Secretary Rzepkowski wished everyone a happy National Apprenticeship Week (NAW), a happy birthday to the U.S. Marine Corps, and a happy Veterans Day.
Assistant Secretary Rzepkowski and Chairman Cavey then introduced Secretary Robinson. Secretary Robinson brought greetings on behalf of the Maryland Governor and the Administration. She said the Governor has consistently been a huge supporter of apprenticeship and jumped at the opportunity to record a video for National Apprenticeship Week. Secretary Robinson referred attendees to the related websites for the video, as well as a video produced by Maryland’s First Lady in Korean and another video recorded in Spanish. She said the Labor team looks forward to Apprenticeship Week every year, but the pandemic has created challenges to promotion this year. Secretary Robinson thanked the apprenticeship team for not missing a MATC meeting despite the pandemic, and for the Council’s 80 sponsor reviews in the past three meetings. The Secretary thanked the MATC Council members for their volunteer service. The Secretary also highlighted news from numerous apprenticeship programs and Youth Apprenticeship. Secretary Robinson said that many recent successes all started with the Council, and she thanked the members again for their service.
Chairman Cavey then directed Mr. MacLarion to proceed with the Director’s Report.
I. DIRECTOR’S REPORT:
     A. Mr. MacLarion reminded everyone  participating in the meeting as         well as members of the public who were  livestreaming it that the             meeting was being recorded in order to prepare  detailed minutes of 
  the Council  meeting.  He wished everyone well.
B. Mr.  MacLarion reminded everyone present that it was National  
  Apprenticeship Week and he thanked  everyone for making Maryland’s programs successful. Mr. MacLarion also noted  that the next day was Veterans Day. He thanked everyone who has served in the  military including relatives of councilmembers, MATP staff and others. He said  there were several virtual NAW events across the state and encouraged attendees  to view the list on the MATP webpage. He said MATP has received ongoing support  from the Governor and Department of Labor leadership.
C. Mr.  MacLarion said this meeting marked the last Council meeting for 
     2020 and the fourth consecutive virtual  meeting. He said the 
  Council and its Sponsors have shown continued flexibility in the 
  past eight months. He encouraged everyone to continue to follow 
  COVID guidance when running programs. Mr. MacLarion thanked John 
  Feaster from the Office of the Assistant Secretary. Mr. Feaster is 
  the Division’s Chief Learning Officer and during this time he 
  stepped up to assist the Apprenticeship team with conducting 
  meetings, using the Webex Platform and then doing all the behind 
  the scenes work during the meetings.  
     D. Mr. Maclarion presented an Apprenticeship  Training Fund update. 
  Total Fund  Balance as of October 31st, 2020 after all obligations 
  was  $1,004,467.67; September contributions were $18,773.47; and  
  August contributions  were $15,668.47.
     E. Mr. MacLarion said the COVID-19  Pandemic has caused sponsors to 
  change Related  Instruction methods.  He said the vast  majority of 
  Sponsors  shifted some or all of their related instruction to an 
  online format  and that will likely continue into the 2021 school 
  year. Plan  changes include blended learning, smaller class sizes, 
  rotating A and  B day style classes for smaller groups and shifting 
  to online  classes instead of in person. One sponsor started the 
  year with in-person  instruction but shifted to online instruction 
  because of COVID  positive cases.  
     F. Mr. MacLarion updated the Council on  previous reviews with actions 
  pending. Judd Fire was scheduled for the  Office of Administrative 
  Hearings for  October but was cancelled.  The new  hearing date was 
  scheduled for  December. Livingston Fire submitted a corrective 
  action plan  which complies with their Affirmative Action Plan for 
  the  recruitment and registration of female apprentices.  Roofers 
  Local 34  accepted the revisions to their Corrective Action Plan 
  from September  to expand their recruitments throughout Western 
  Maryland.  SMART 100, of Cumberland, asked for a 30-day  extension 
  which was  granted, has regularly updated MATP Staff, has 
  implemented  new outreach measures and has also begun creation of a 
  comprehensive  lists of organizations.  Mr. MacLarion  said he was 
  pleased with  other initiatives and the progress of SMART 100.  
  Ralph Degli  Obizzi Plumbing had one dozen apprentices scheduled for 
  testing for  their JW license.  With the exception of  Judd Fire no 
  further action  was needed.
        Mr. MacLarion  said in the past year the Council has approved 
  numerous follow  ups, letters and other actions to be taken to help 
  apprenticeship  peers improve the quality of their programs.  The 
  Council has  provided guidance on outreach, recruitment and 
  registration  of minority and female apprentices and improvement of 
  completion  rates.  In almost every single case the  Sponsors have 
  replied  immediately and taken strong and decisive measures to 
  remedy  deficiencies and improve their program. Mr. MacLarion  
  thanked the  Council for their dedication.
     G. Mr. MacLarion said MATP crossed the  11,000-apprentice mark for the 
  first time in Maryland.  He said this is a result of the work of    
  the Council.  Mr. MacLarion asked attendees to share apprenticeship  
  success stories  with MATP staff, as this is the best way to 
  highlight the  program.
H. Mr.  MacLarion said RAPIDS was rapidly making headway toward 
  multistate registration and more concrete information would be 
  available in January.
I. Chairman  Cavey thanked Mr. MacLarion for his service as a military
  veteran, asked if anyone had questions, then asked for a motion to 
  approve Mr. MacLarion’s report. A motion was made by Mr. Bromley, 
  seconded by Mr. Shmelzer, and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic 
  absent).
  
II. NEW BUSINESS:
A.  NEW PROGRAMS:
  
  1. Carter Machinery  Company, Inc. (Christopher D. MacLarion) 
  Occupations of Construction/Mining Equipment  Technician and 
  Electric Power Generator Technician.  Related Instruction to be 
  provided by Carter Machinery  Company, Inc. Request for 
  registration of an Affirmative  Action Plan with apprentice  
  selection procedures and goals and timetables  for minority and 
  female apprentices. (item  1)
           Mr.  Shmelzer said in the qualifications of apprenticeship in the 
  standards, under residence, Washington  D.C. wasn’t identified 
  and he  thought it should be included. Mr. Shmelzer said he was  
  also  unclear about the duties of the Electric Power Generator 
  Technician.  He asked if the generator technician maintains 
  equipment  or connects generators to power. Mr. MacLarion 
  clarified  that generator technicians repair the generators.
  
  Mr. Wilford asked for details of  about in-house curriculum.  Mr. 
  MacLarion pointed Mr. Wilford to the  resumes of the instruction 
  providers.  Mr. MacLarion said he could provide more  information 
  about the full curriculum if  necessary. Mr. Wilford asked that 
  more details be provided in the  future. Mr. MacLarion said he 
  would request more specific  information about the curriculum and  
  include it in the Carter Machinery  file.
       A motion to approve this request for registration of Standards                of Apprenticeship was made by  Mr. Shmelzer, seconded by Ms. Butt 
  and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
A motion to approve the Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice selection procedures and goals and timetables for minority and female apprentices was made by Mr. Shmelzer, seconded by Mr. Smarte and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
    2. Hamilton-Ryker TalentGro (Jeffrey W. Smith) – Occupations of 
  Certified Nursing Assistant: Level 1 and Certified Nurse and 
  Rehabilitative Aide. Related Instruction to be provided in-house 
  by Commonwealth Senior Living located in Cockeysville, MD. 
  Request for registration of an Affirmative Action Plan with 
  apprentice selection procedures and goals and timetables for 
  minority and female apprentices. (item 2)
       Mr. Shmelzer said there is a discrepancy in the packet regarding 
  age. One section of the standards lists the qualification age as 
  18 and another section states age 17. Mr. Smith said that was a 
  typographical error, the age should be 18, and the error will be 
  corrected.
       Mr. Klusmann also noted that there was language in the standards 
  under the qualifications section that was too general and vague. 
  Mr. Smith said the vague  language would be addressed in the 
  final version.
  
  Mr. MacLarion asked a  clarifying question. He asked if the 
  language “all others identified” would be stricken if 
  the standards were conditionally approved by the council. Mr. 
  Klusmann said that language should be stricken. Mr. Smith said 
  he noted the stricken language, and it would be removed.
       Mr. Wilford asked if an apprenticeship certificates resulting 
  from programs with in-house instruction would be accepted by 
  other employers. Mr. Smith said the certification would be 
  accepted by other employers; the certificate is portable.
  
        A motion to approve this request for  registration of Standards                 of Apprenticeship with amendments was made by Mr. Shmelzer, 
  seconded by Mr. Klusmann and unanimously  approved (Ms. Banovic 
  absent).
A motion to approve the Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice selection procedures and goals and timetables for minority and female apprentices was made by Mr. Smarte, seconded by Mr. Bromley and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
    3. Maryland Direct Support Professional Apprenticeship Program   
  (Jeffrey W. Smith) – Occupation of Direct Support Professional. 
  Related Instruction to be provided by the National Alliance for 
  Direct Support Professionals E-Badge Academy, in-house and web-
  Based and live class sessions. Request for registration of an 
  Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice selection procedures and 
  goals and timetables for minority and female  apprentices.(item            3)
  
        A motion to approve this request for  registration of Standards                 of Apprenticeship was made by Mr. Klusmann, seconded by Ms. Butt 
  and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent;  Mr. Clinedinst 
  unavailable to vote).
      A  motion to approve the Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice                selection procedures and goals  and timetables for minority and               female apprentices was made by Mr. Smarte, seconded by Mr.                    Shmelzer and unanimously approved (Ms.  Banovic absent; Mr. 
  Clinedinst unavailable to vote).
    4. Maryland State Bar Association, Inc. (Christopher D.
  MacLarion)– Occupation of Lawyer. Related Instruction to be 
  provided by the Maryland State Bar Association, Inc. Request for 
  registration of an Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice 
  selection procedures and goals and timetables for minority and 
  female apprentices. (item 4)
       Mr. MacLarion stated this program is unique. The creation of 
  this program was initiated partly because of an order from the 
  Maryland Court of Appeals. COVID-19 impacted the occupation of 
  lawyer. Law school graduates have not been able to take the bar 
  exam. The court order seeks to rectify that by allowing law 
  school graduates to work in law offices as apprentices. This 
  represents a historic shift in Maryland. Under the observation 
  of a lawyer journeyperson, apprentices may offer legal services 
  without first passing the bar. Two employers are ready to hire 
  apprentices if the program is approved. Apprentices will 
  complete their apprenticeship when they pass the bar.
       Chairman Cavey invited Judge Scurti to speak. The Judge said 
  this is a unique situation issued under the Court of Appeals. 
  The Judge said the apprenticeship allows apprentices 18 months 
  to pass the bar.
       A motion to approve this request for registration of Standards                of Apprenticeship was made by  Mr. Smarte, seconded by Ms. Butt 
  and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
      A motion to approve the Affirmative Action  Plan with apprentice                 selection procedures and goals and timetables for minority and              female apprentices was made by Mr.  Shmelzer, seconded by Mr. 
  Wilson and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
    5. Smoothstack (Christopher D. MacLarion) – Occupation of Junior 
  Software Developer. Related Instruction to be provided by the 
  sponsor. Request for registration of an Affirmative Action Plan 
  with apprentice selection procedures and goals and timetables 
  for minority and female apprentices. (item 5)
       Mr. MacLarion said Smoothstack is registered in at least two 
  other states and the apprenticeship program is running well in 
  those states.
       Mr. Shmelzer asked a question about the meaning of codility 
  under the qualifications for apprenticeship.  Mr. MacLarion said 
  it’s an entry level coding test. Mr. Shmelzer asked if there was 
  anything in place to make the test equitable. Mr. MacLarion said 
  he would work with the sponsor to create a template for the   
  website to view prior to registration.
       Mr. Klusmann stated that he has an issue with the coding test. 
  He’s not sure the test is equitable for entry-level apprentices. 
  Mr. MacLarion said the program will be reviewed within the first 
  year, including how apprentices are selected. It should be 
  evident if the program is not running properly. If “gatekeeping” 
  is evident, it will be brought before the council. Mr. Shmelzer 
  said the council will be taking a serious look at that following 
  the yearly review.
       Mr. Shmelzer said he views this program as a great opportunity 
  for school to apprenticeship. This would support 
  diversification.  Mr. Klusmann  agreed.
       A motion to approve this request for registration of Standards                of Apprenticeship was made by  Mr. Shmelzer, seconded by Mr. 
  Klusmann and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
      A motion to approve the Affirmative Action  Plan with apprentice                 selection procedures and goals and timetables for minority and              female apprentices was made by Mr.  Shmelzer, seconded by Mr. 
  Smarte and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
B. PROGRAM REVISIONS:
        1. American  Hotel and Lodging Association (Jane Sinclair) –   
  Revision to modify the progressive wage  schedule to more 
  accurately  reflect Industry Standard for Lodging Manager wages.
  (item 6)                                        
           Ms.  Sinclair said the association’s representative was 
  unavailable  for the meeting. She asked to move forward and 
  Chairman  Cavey obliged.
           A motion to  approve this revision was made by Mr. Smarte,                                                   
  seconded by  Ms. Butt and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic 
  absent).           
           2.  Community College of Baltimore County (Jane Sinclair) - Request 
  for the  addition of the occupation of Patient Care Technician.   
  Request for  registration of an Affirmative Action Plan with 
  apprentice  selection procedures and goals and timetables for 
  minority  and female apprentices. (item 7)
           Mr.  Shmelzer asked for clarification about CCBC’s reactivation 
  of the  machinist program. Ms. Sinclair stated the issue with the 
  machinist  occupation is included on the supplemental agenda for 
  this  meeting. Mr. Shmelzer then asked what CCBC will do to 
  prevent the  patient care technician program from going dormant.
  Ms.  Sinclair said, according to her discussions with CCBC 
  representatives, they have had extensive interaction with the 
  University  of Maryland Medical System. Ms. Sinclair said MATP 
  staff  should know in a year if more outreach to employers is 
  needed.
  
  Ms. Butt  noted that the agenda states pharmacy tech, but the 
  request is  for patient care technician. Ms. Sinclair said 
  “pharmacy  tech” was a typographical error.
           Mr.  Klusmann asked who the 311 journeypersons are. Ms. Sinclair 
  said they  currently work for the hospital system.
           Mr.  MacLarion clarified that there are protocols in place to 
  compare how  big a new program could be to how it is actually 
  performing.   
           A motion to  approve the additional occupation was made by Mr. 
  Smarte, seconded  by Mr. Bromley and unanimously approved (Ms. 
  Banovic  absent).
           A motion to  approve the Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice                  
  selection  procedures and goals and timetables for minority and                         female  apprentices was made by Mr. Bromley, seconded by Mr. 
  Wilson and  unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
           3.  CVS Health (Jeffrey W. Smith) – Request for revisions to the 
  work  processes, Related Instruction and apprentice wage 
  progression  schedule for the occupation of Pharmacy Technician.
  (item 8)
  
  Mr.  Shmelzer said he is concerned about the low number of 
  apprentices, two. Mr. Smith said others have graduated from the 
  program. He  said CVS’ intent is to enroll another cohort of 
  apprentices.
           Mr. Wilford  asked for clarification of the job title which is 
  approved  for apprenticeship. Mr. Smith clarified this revision 
  is only for  pharmacy technician.
           A motion to  approve this revision was made by Mr. Smarte,                                                   
  seconded by  Mr. Bromley and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic 
  absent).
             4. Frederick Community College (Jennifer D.  Runkles) - Revision to 
  add the  occupation of Biological Technician. Related Instruction 
  to be provided  by Frederick Community College. (item 9)
           Mr.  Shmelzer asked if FCC’s apprenticeship committee is holding 
  meetings  related to the previously approved occupation of  
  emergency  management specialist, and what is the plan to meet  
  for this  new occupation. Ms. Runkles said the committee is 
  currently  meeting and she is discussing plans to meet regularly 
  to address  the new occupation. Mr. Shmelzer asked if there is 
  dedicated  staff at the college for these occupations. Ms. 
  Runkles  said FCC has dedicated staff and she is communicating 
  with  college staff monthly basis. Mr. Shmelzer said he is 
  concerned  that the program will not be able to build numbers 
  because FCC  might not reach beyond Frederick County. He is 
  concerned  with sustainability and program growth. Ms. Runkles 
  said FCC is  very serious about growing these programs.
           A motion to approve this revision was made by Ms. Butt,
  seconded by Mr. Bromley and  unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic 
  absent). 
        5. Frederick  Community College (Jennifer D. Runkles) - Revision to 
  add the  occupation of HVACR Technician. Related Instruction to 
  be provided by Frederick Community College.  (item 10)
           Chairman  Cavey asked how FCC has supported this occupation in 
  the past.  Ms. Runkles said the entry-level certificate courses 
  started in  2017. They have been working toward growing interest 
  in this  occupation and they would like to launch a 
  apprenticeship program.
           Mr.  Shmelzer noted the remarks state 6,000 hours but they  
  should  state 8,000 hours. He also said there’s no plan to 
  address  licensure and he asked how attendance and make up days 
  will be  addressed. He said he has a lot of concerns. Ms. Runkles 
  said  attendance will be addressed by FCC staff. Mr. Shmelzer 
  asked how  attendance would be communicated to employers because 
  of  prevailing wage concerns.
           Ms. Milan  stated FCC would frequently liaison with each business 
  regarding  attendance and grades.  Ms. Milan also  said the 
  certificate  program dating to 2007 (not 2017) is one of the more 
  successful programs.  Mr. Shmelzer asked if it is the intent of 
  the college  to allow students that are not registered 
  apprentices  to take different levels of courses even if they are 
  not  employed. Ms. Milan said all apprentices have to be employed 
  by a  registered employer. Mr. Shmelzer asked what the process  
  would be to  correct on-the-job training (OJT).  Ms.  Milan said 
  FCC staff would meet with registered  employers regularly. Ms. 
  Milan said  the employer will be tracking the OJT and FCC will be 
  meeting with  employers monthly to collect that data.
           Mr.  Shmelzer asked how FCC will handle apprentices who are no 
  longer  employed. She said FCC will regularly report to the 
  Department  of Labor and all involved. Mr. Shmelzer said he is 
  concerned  because the college as sponsor will be responsible for 
  finding new employment for  apprentices who become unemployed.
           Mr.  Klusmann asked how the application process would work. Ms. 
  Milan said  the employer can bring and apprentice or potential 
  apprentices  can access the FCC website and submit a form. A 
  developmental math test is required for HVAC. The potential 
  apprentice  would then be referred to career services. FCC would 
  then  contact employers to schedule interviews.   Mr. Klusmann 
  asked how  diversity would be handled. Ms. Milan said FCC would 
  attend  events and raise awareness to address the diversity.
           Chairman  Cavey asked how FCC will address issues when 
  apprentices  lose employment through no fault of their own. Mr. 
  LoSchiavo said  FCC has a very close relationship with their 
  employers.  He said FCC will work hand in hand with an unemployed 
  apprentice,  participating employers and would also work to bring 
  on more  participating employers if need be. Chairman Cavey asked 
  if FCC  would allow an employer to hire a new apprentice if 
  another  apprentice was unemployed. Mr. LoSchiavo said he didn’t 
  want to  answer with a hard no.
           Mr.  Clinedinst asked why the college wants to be the sponsor 
  when the  businesses want apprentices, and why the college is 
  getting in  the middle. Mr. LoSchiavo said there is no local 
  HVAC apprenticeship  program in Frederick County; the college is 
  providing a  service based on input from employers that want to 
  see a more  cohesive training program in place.
           Chairman  Cavey asked Mr. Clinedinst, as a point of information, 
  if his  jurisdiction covers Frederick County and if he has 
  signatory  employers in Frederick County. Mr. Clinedinst said yes 
  he covers  Frederick County and they have 120 depending. Mr. 
  Cavey asked  Ms. Butt, as a point of information, if ABC 
  Baltimore  covers Frederick County. Ms. Butt said that’s under 
  the  Cumberland Valley chapter which has a large number of 
  signatory  employers. Mr. Shmelzer said the IEC has a large 
  program in Frederick County as well.
           Mr.  Clinedinst said he didn’t see an interview process or 
  minimum  requirements in the standards. Mr. MacLarion said when 
  standards  are revised to include a new occupation, the 
  requirements are not included unless they are also revised.  Mr. 
  Clinedinst  said, considering the physical requirements of HVAC, 
  this should  be reconsidered. Mr. MacLarion concurred.
  Mr.  Shmelzer asked about licensing requirements related to 
  HVACR. Mr.  MacLarion said all HVACR apprenticeship programs in 
  Maryland  have the same requirements for licensure upon 
  completion  of an apprenticeship.
           Mr.  Clinedinst asked Mr. MacLarion why FCC wants to be a 
  sponsor.  Mr. MacLarion said the college’s reasoning is unique to 
  them. He  referred to the answers already provided by FCC 
  representatives. They intend to offer value to employers in the 
  region.
           Mr.  Clinedinst asked how the college is compensated. Mr. 
  MacLarion  said there are fees for classes much like other 
  colleges.  Mr. Shmelzer said the college will receive, through 
  MHEC will receive  dollars, about $300 to $400 per apprentice 
  assuming  the apprentices complete the program. Mr. Clinedinst 
  asked if he  wanted to switch to the FCC program, could he send 
  an  apprentice to FCC at no cost as the employer. Ms. Milan said 
  the  employer would pay for the education and there is no cost to 
  the  apprentice. 
           Mr.  Clinedinst asked who is monitoring the apprentice at work 
  and at  school, who is going to be the responsible party. Ms. 
  Milan said  Mr. LoSchiavo and his team are responsible.
           Mr.  MacLarion said he was able to obtain the current standards 
  of  apprenticeship for FCC and clarified the minimum 
  requirements.
           Mr. Wilford said his biggest concern is  selection data, the 
  rights of  the apprentice and potential hindrances to completing 
  apprenticeship. He would like to see more protections for 
  apprentices.
           Mr. Klusmann  reminded everyone that standards typically contain 
  language to  address unemployed apprentices and that the council 
  can look  very carefully at practices during program’s review.
           Mr.  MacLarion summarized the responsibilities of FCC and 
  participating employers, as well as eligibility requirements. 
  Mr.  MacLarion said the council could suggest a number of 
  motions,  including conditional approval or action items from 
  MATP staff.
           Mr.  Clinedinst said he would like to see more information about 
  the  apprenticeship beyond the training.  Mr.  MacLarion said a 
  complete  set of standards for FCC is filed.
           Chairman  Cavey requested a motion, but received not motion. Mr. 
  MacLarion  said there would have to be a motion of some type to 
  end an agenda  item. Chairman Cavey said he thinks an agenda item 
  dies  without a motion. The chairman directed Mr. MacLarion and 
  staff to  determine how staff approaches a lack of a motion. The 
  council  proceeded to the next agenda item without a motion.     
        6. Humanim,  Inc. (Jane Sinclair) revision to the term of  
  apprenticeship  from 4000 hours to 2000 hours. (item 11)
           Mr. Wilford  asked for clarification that MATP staff discovered 
  the program  could be completed more quickly upon review. Ms. 
  Sinclair  said Mr. Wilford is correct, and the sponsor discovered 
  this as  well, since the program is new.
  
  A motion to  approve this revision was made by Mr. Klusmann,                               seconded by Mr. Clinedinst and  unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic 
  Absent; Mr. Wilson unavailable to  vote).
        7. Lywood  Electric, Inc. (Christopher D. MacLarion) - Revision to 
  register  updated Standards of Apprenticeship and Affirmative 
  Action  Plan. (item 12)
           As a point  of order, Mr. MacLarion stated that the Secretary of 
  Labor left  the meeting to attend to a prior obligation.
            A motion to approve this revision was made by  Mr. Smarte, seconded 
  by Mr. Shmelzer and unanimously  approved (Ms. Banovic Absent).
           A motion to  approve the Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice                                    selection procedures and goals and timetables for minority and          
  female  apprentices was made by Mr. Bromley, seconded by Mr.                                Shmelzer and unanimously approved (Ms.  Banovic absent).
        8. Minnick’s  Inc. (Jeffrey W. Smith) – Revision to add School-to-
  Apprenticeship  language to the Standards of Apprenticeship.
  (item 13)
           A motion to approve this revision  was made by Mr. Shmelzer,                                
  seconded  by Mr. Smarte and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic 
  Absent).
        9. Seaside Plumbing, Inc. (Christopher D. Maclarion)  - Revision to add 
  an Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice  selection procedures  
  and goals and timetables for  minority and female apprentices.
  (item 14)
           A motion to  approve the Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice                                    selection procedures and goals and timetables for minority and          
  female  apprentices was made by Mr. Bromley, seconded by Mr.                Clinedinst and unanimously approved (Ms.  Banovic absent).
       10. W.L. Gore  and Associates, Inc. R & D Division (Kelton Addison) – 
  Review and Revision  to add an Affirmative Action Plan with 
  Apprentice selection  procedures and goals and timetables for 
  minority  and female apprentices. (item 15)
           Chairman  Cavey requested clarification. On the agenda W.L. Gore 
  was listed  twice, for approval of an Affirmative Action Plan and 
  also for a  review. Mr. Addison said he was seeking approval for 
  both the  review and Affirmative Action plan in this agenda item.
           A motion to  approve the Affirmative Action Plan with apprentice                                    selection procedures and goals and timetables for minority and          
  female  apprentices was made by Mr. Bromley, seconded by Mr.                Smarte and unanimously approved (Ms.  Banovic absent).
           A motion to  accept this review, with staff findings and 
  recommendations,  was made by Mr. Clinedinst, seconded by Mr. 
  Bromley and  unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
C. PROGRAM REVIEWS (Five (5) or More Apprentices):
1. Baltimore Area Roofers JAC (Kelton Addison). (item 16)A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Ms. Butt, seconded by Mr. Shmelzer and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
2. Baltimore County Police Department (Kelton Addison). (item 17)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Smarte, seconded by Mr. Shmelzer and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
3. W.L. Gore and Associates, Inc. R & D Division (Kelton Addison). (item 18)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Smarte, seconded by Mr. Shmelzer and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent). 4. Ironworkers Local 5 JATC (Ginamarie Best). (item 19)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Bromley, seconded by Mr. Clinedinst and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
5. Ironworkers Local 5S JATC (Ginamarie Best). (item 20)
Ms. Best briefly lost her WiFi connection. Mr. MacLarion offered a high level review.
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Bromley, seconded by Mr. Clinedinst and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
5. Sheet Metal Local 100 – Washington, D.C. Area (Ginamarie Best). (item 21)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Shmelzer, seconded by Mr. Smarte and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
6. Washington, D.C. Joint Plumbing Apprenticeship Committee (Christopher D. MacLarion). (item 22)
Mr. MacLarion, as a point of order, informed the council that Assistant Secretary Rzepkowski had to leave for another meeting.
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Clinedinst, seconded by Mr. Bromley and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
7. Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers District Council of West Virginia JATC Local 15 (Jennifer D. Runkles). (item 23)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Clinedinst, seconded by Mr. Wilford and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
8. International Assoc. of Structural, Ornamental & Reinforcing Ironworkers, Local No. 568 JATC (Jennifer D. Runkles). (item 24)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Clinedinst, seconded by Mr. Smarte and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
9. Cumberland Plumbers & Steamfitters Local 489 JATC (Jennifer D. Runkles). (item 25)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Bromley, seconded by Mr. Clinedinst and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
10. Mid-Atlantic Carpenters’ Training Centers – Cumberland Area Carpenters (Jennifer D. Runkles). (item 26)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Clinedinst, seconded by Mr. Bromley and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
11. Volvo Group Trucks Operation (Jennifer D. Runkles). (item 27)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Shmelzer, seconded by Mr. Smarte and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
12. Western Maryland JATC for the Electrical Industry (Jennifer D. Runkles). (item 28)
A motion to accept this review, with staff findings and recommendations, was made by Mr. Smarte, seconded by Mr. Wilson and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
D. PROGRAM REVIEWS (Fewer Than Five (5) Apprentices):
        1. The following program reviews were  performed and the programs 
  were found  to be conducted in a satisfactory manner.
             [No Council Action Required]: 
  
  a. Barnes Electric, Inc. -  Occupation of Electrician
  (Kelton  Addison). (item 29)
               b.  American Hotel and Lodging Association – Occupation of 
  Lodging  Manager (Jane Sinclair). (item 30)
               c. Amick Farms, LLC – Occupation of  Maintenance Electrician 
  (Jane  Sinclair). (item 31)
               d.  Department of the Navy, NWSC IHEODTD – Occupation of 
  Machinist  (Jane Sinclair). (item 32)
e. Holmatro, Inc. – Occupation of  Machinist (Jane       Sinclair).     (item 33) 
  
  f.  Protegis Fire and Safety – Occupation of Sprinkler Fitter   
  (Jane  Sinclair). (item 34)
               g. St.  Mary’s County Sheriff’s Office – Occupations of 
  Deputy  Sheriff Law Enforcement and Deputy Sheriff 
  Correctional  Officer (Jane Sinclair). (item 35)
               h.  Baltimore Police Department – Occupation of Police Cadet 
  (Jeffrey  W. Smith). (item 36)
E. PROVISIONAL REVIEWS:
1. JMT Services, Inc. (Jeffrey W. Smith). (item 37)
           Mr.  Shmelzer said it looks like the sponsor is struggling with 
  paperwork.  He asked if this would be resolved the next time the 
  sponsor is presented to the council.  Mr. Smith said this will 
  not be a  problem moving forward.
           A motion to  accept this provisional review, with staff findings 
  and recommendations,  was made by Mr. Shmelzer, seconded by Mr. 
  Smarte and  unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
F. VOLUNTARY REQUESTS FOR CANCELLATION OF STANDARDS OF APPRENTICESHIP:
1. Joseph M. Zimmer, Inc. effective September 9, 2020. (item 38)
2. Protegis Fire and Safety effective October 8, 2020. (item 39)
3. Tree Care Industry Association effective September 9, 2020. (item 40)
           A motion to  accept the voluntary cancellation of all three 
  programs,  including Joseph M. Zimmer, Protegis Fire and Tree 
  Care  Industry Association, was made by Mr. Smarte, seconded Mr. 
  Clinedinst  and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic absent).
G. OTHER BUSINESS:
        1. Associated Builders and Contractors,  Inc., Baltimore 
  Metropolitan  Chapter (Christopher D. MacLarion) - Request to 
  award a  posthumous Certificate of Completion of Apprenticeship.
  (item 41)
           A motion to  award a posthumous certificate was made by Mr. 
  Smarte,  seconded by Mr. Shmelzer, approved by all members except 
  Ms. Butt  who abstained (Ms. Banovic absent).
        2. International  Union of Elevator Constructors Local No. 10 Joint 
  Apprenticeship  Committee (Christopher D. MacLarion) – Request to 
  award a posthumous Certificate of  Completion of Apprenticeship.
  (item 42)
           A motion to  award a posthumous certificate was made by Mr. 
  Smarte,  seconded by Mr. Shmelzer, and unanimously approved.
  (Ms.  Banovic absent).
        3. Associated  Builders and Contractors, Inc., Baltimore    
  Metropolitan  Chapter (Christopher D. MacLarion) Request to award 
  a  posthumous Certificate of Completion of Apprenticeship. (item      43)
           A motion to  award a posthumous certificate was made by Mr. 
  Smarte,  seconded by Mr. Shmelzer, approved by all members except 
  Ms. Butt  who abstained (Ms. Banovic absent).
        4. International Union of Elevator Constructors Local  No. 7 
  (Christopher D. MacLarion) –  Request for After-the-Fact registration 
  and completion of an apprentice  Elevator Constructor. (item 44)
           A motion to  approve after-the-fact registration was made by Mr. 
  Smarte,  seconded by Mr. Bromley and unanimously approved (Ms. 
  Banovic  absent). 
        5. Recommendation  for deregistration of Apprenticeship Standards 
  for the  defunct apprenticeship program of Specialty Construction 
  Management,  Inc. (MATC No. 2233) (Christopher D. MacLarion).    (item 45)
           Mr.  Shmelzer asked if MATP staff could contact the one 
  registered apprentice.  Mr. MacLarion said staff would 
  send a  letter to the apprentice.
           A motion to  approve deregistration was made by Mr. Shmelzer, 
  seconded by  Mr. Bromley and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic 
  absent).
  
  6. Request for  the approval of Automotive Parts & Machine of 
  Frederick,  Inc. to be an eligible employer for Apprenticeship 
  Maryland  (Youth) (Jennifer D. Runkles). (item 46)
        7. Request for  the approval of Alion Science and Technology 
  Corporation  (Alion) to be an eligible employer for 
  Apprenticeship  Maryland (Youth) (Jane Sinclair).
        8. Request for  the approval of C.H. Attick Electric, Inc. to be an 
  eligible  employer for Apprenticeship Maryland (Youth)
  (Jane  Sinclair). (item 47)
        9. Request for  the approval of Jordan Research and Development, LLC 
  to be an  eligible employer for Apprenticeship Maryland (Youth) 
  (Jane  Sinclair). (item 48)
       10. Request for  the approval of Patuxent Partnership, Inc. TPP to 
  be an eligible  employer for Apprenticeship Maryland (Youth)  
  (Jane  Sinclair). (item 49)
           A motion to  accept Apprenticeship Maryland eligible employers as 
  listed here  under Section G, items 6 through 10, was made by Mr. 
  Shmelzer,  seconded by Mr. Bromley and unanimously approved (Ms. 
  Banovic  absent).
       11. Request for  High’s of Baltimore to be an eligible employer for 
  Apprenticeship  Maryland (Youth) (Jeffrey W. Smith). (item 50)
           Mr.  Shmelzer expressed concerns about related instruction. He 
  asked if  the related instruction is really applicable. Mr. Smith 
  said he  would address this issue with the relevant school 
  system.
           A motion to  table this item until the next council meeting was 
  made by Mr.  Shmelzer, seconded by Mr. Bromley and unanimously 
  approved  (Ms. Banovic absent).           
       12. Proposed  schedule of Maryland Apprenticeship and Training 
  Council  meetings for calendar year 2021. (item 51)
           Chairman  Cavey asked if the meetings would be held virtually. 
  Mr.  MacLarion said the January meeting would likely be virtual 
  and they  could discuss this in the January meeting.
           A motion to  approve the schedule was made by Mr. Wilford, 
  seconded by  Mr. Clinedinst and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic 
  absent).
SUPPLEMENTAL AGENDA
III. OLD BUSINESS:
A. PROGRAM REVISIONS:
        1. Howard Community College (Christopher D.  MacLarion) revision to 
  Work  Processes for the occupation of IT Field Support Specialist 
  Level I.  Request for waiver of ratio from one {1) apprentice to 
  one (1)  journeyworker to two (2) apprentices to one (1) 
  journeyworker.  (item 52)
        2. Howard  Community College (Christopher D. MacLarion) – Revisions
  to Work  Processes and Related Instruction for the occupation of 
  IT Field  Support Specialist Level II. Request for waiver of 
  ratio from  one (1) apprentice to one {1) journeyworker to two 
  (2)  apprentices to one (1) journeyworker. (item 53)
        3. Howard  Community College (Christopher D. MacLarion) - Request 
  for waiver  of ratio from one (1) apprentice to one (1) 
  journeyworker  to two (2) apprentices to one (1) Journeyworker 
  for  the occupation of Information Systems Security Engineer.  (item 54)
           Mr.  MacLarion stated that these items (listed here in Old 
  Business, Part A items 1 through 3) were  tabled at the September 
  8, 2020  Council meeting as the Council had concerns over 
  definitions  and language in the Work Processes. As to whether 
  any IT  tasks would constitute construction. Staff and the 
  sponsor  were requested to review each occupation and Work 
  Processes  to ensure there were no construction elements involved 
  and that  the safety of the apprentices would be ensured.
           Mr. Wilford  asked if there would be any construction activities. 
  Mr.  MacLarion cited language from the standards to address this 
  concern.  Mr. Swick said there would be no installation of 
  electrical  wiring that would require an electrician’s license.
           A motion to  approve items listed here as 1 through 3 was made by 
  Mr. Smarte,  seconded by Mr. Clinedinst and unanimously approved 
  (Ms.  Banovic absent).
IV. NEW BUSINESS:
A. PROGRAM REVISIONS:
          1. Baltimore  County Police Department (Kelton Addison) – Request 
  for  revision to the Related Instruction and an increase in the 
  journeyworker  hourly wage rate. (item 55)
             A motion  to approve this revision was made by Mr. Shmelzer, 
  seconded  by Mr. Smarte and unanimously approved (Ms. Banovic
  absent).
There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting of the Maryland Apprenticeship and Training Council was adjourned at 1:11 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
                              Christopher  D. MacLarion
  Secretary
  Maryland  Apprenticeship and Training Council
Select the minutes from the list below
- May 13, 2025
- March 11, 2025
- January 14, 2025
- November 19, 2024
- September 10, 2024
- July 9, 2024
- May 14, 2024
- March 12, 2024
- January 9, 2024
- November 14, 2023
- September 23, 2023
- July 11, 2023
- May 16, 2023
- March 14, 2023
- January 10, 2023
- November 15, 2022
- September 20, 2022
- July 12, 2022
- May 10, 2022
- March 8, 2022
- January 11, 2022
- November 16, 2021
- September 14, 2021
- May 11, 2021
- March 9, 2021
- January 12, 2021
- November 10, 2020
- September 8, 2020
- July 14, 2020
- May 12, 2020
- March 10, 2020
- January 14, 2020
- November 12, 2019
- September 10, 2019
- July 9, 2019
- May 14, 2019
- March 12, 2019
- January 8, 2019
- November 13, 2018
- September 18, 2018
- July 10, 2018
- May 8, 2018
- March 13, 2018
- January 9, 2018
- November 14, 2017
- September 12, 2017
- July 11, 2017
- May 9, 2017
- January 10, 2017
- November 15, 2016
- September 13, 2016
- July 14, 2016
- May 26, 2016 Special Called Council Meeting
- May 10, 2016
- March 8, 2016
- January 12, 2016
- November 10, 2015
